This program explores the natural world as an access point to the sacred. With global warming on the rise and the number of animal species now declining at alarming rates, this program asks if we humans are trapped in a never-ending destructive cycle fed by our ever-increasing desires. Or do our most serious environmental problems stem in part from our very concept, or understanding of "self"? Eco-philosopher and Buddhist teacher Joanna Macy meets global ecologist, anthropologist and filmmaker Michael Tobias to explore some of the most basic existential questions: How do we see "ourselves" amongst the wider family of earth's inhabitants? Are our human notions of 'ecology" or of "the sacred" blind to nature's fundamental laws and truths?